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A collection  of articles using science and common sense to demonstate the stupidity of using MMS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Merseyside Skeptics Society

Be Reasonable: Episode #022 – Jim Humble

 

 

This month on Be Reasonable we dip back into the archives for one of the most troubling interviews I’ve ever been involved in.

 

Back in 2010, reports emerged about a product called Miracle Mineral Solution – a pseudomedical panacea which was touted as a treatment for cancer, AIDS, malaria and Crohn’s disease, yet in actuality was much closer in chemistry to a form of industrial bleach. The founder and main proponent of MMS was Jim Humble, whose name quickly began to appear in the press, and who turned down interviews with the BBC and with the Guardian. He did, however, agree to speak to Hayley and me for our old podcast, Righteous Indignation.

 

It’s an interview that affected me greatly, and one I think about regularly, which is why I’d like to present it now, for the first time, in its unbroken entirety. See more

Charlatan Hunters

Andreas Kalcker sells dangerous fake hope

Jan 29, 2015

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Intro:

 

Welcome to our website called Charlatan hunters. We are a group of people from Slovakia and Czech republic who hate charlatans and their pseudoscience. The internet is full of them and we are here to debunk their nonsense and bring some science based facts.

 

Andreas Kalcker sells dangerous fake hope

 

There are a lot of videos on Youtube with Andreas Kalcker talking about the same bullshit over and over again. Here is one of them:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUC1qpGuBf4

 

Andreas Kalcker talks something about autism treatment in that video. According to him, autism is a “vaccinal parasitosis”, meaning that autism is caused by 2 factors – vaccination and parasites. Actually, he just put together 2 common quacks spread all over the internet nowadays:

 

1. Vaccines cause all illnesses, including autism.

 

2. Parasites cause all diseases, including autism.

 

a) As for the first one, most of the studies did not find a link between vaccination and autism (1).

 

b) As for the second one, there is no evidence that parasites cause autism.

 

c) Concerning both of the factors, there is no evidence that these 2 factors together cause autism, as Kalcker says. See More     Spanish Translation here

 

 

 

 

 

Violent Metaphors: Storytelling vs. science

Jan 14, 2015

 

“Nothing sells unproven “treatments” like testimonials. For autism it has been true since the days of chelation and even before that. Tell people that your “treatment” cures autism and you have testimonials to show it and you can just about guarantee sales.” See More

 

Lbrb: Autism Science, News and Opinions since 2003.

Yes, it may be illegal to sell MMS

 

A few years ago a new “treatment” appeared in the alternative medical world: MMS or Miracle Mineral Solution. As just criticism came out on this treatment, the name has morphed. One can now find it called CD (chlorine dioxide) or CDS (chlorine dioxide solution) or even the “parasite protocol). It goes by many names and it’s a scam. See More

 

 

Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:

The return of J. B. Handley

Jan 14, 2015

 

He’s ba-ack.

 

Remember J. B. Handley? He and his wife were the founders of the antivaccine crank group Generation Rescue (GR) back in the day. When I first started blogging, GR was new and shiny, with JB and his wife showing up all over the media blaming autism on mercury. In fact, I think it’s worth reminding my readers, for the benefit of newbies (and in this case, newbies could be anyone who hasn’t been reading at least five years) just what GR used to say about autism:

 

Generation Rescue believes that childhood neurological disorders such as autism, Asperger’s, ADHD/ADD, speech delay, sensory integration disorder, and many other developmental delays are all misdiagnoses for mercury poisoning.

 

When you know cause, you can focus on cure.Thousands of parents are curing their children by removing the mercury from their children’s bodies. We want you, the parent, to know the truth. See More .

 

 

No More Bleach: Exposing The Reality of Chlorine Dioxide

Secrets, Lies, and Chlorine Dioxide

Jan 11, 2015

 

Dear Internet,

 

There are several things about the use of chlorine dioxide in the treatment of autism that are troubling,  but perhaps none more so than all of the secrecy.  These parents know that what they are doing could get them in hot water with child protective services,  yet they still do it.  How desperate do you have to be to risk losing your children because you don’t want to face facts and admit they will always be autistic?

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Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:

Bleach Enema Karaoke

Jan 8, 2014

 

It’s Kalcker’s Kerrioke Lounge hosted by the CD Community at AutismOne 2014!!! The popular Dr. Andreas Kalcker is on hand for a second year of presentations with Kerri Rivera, and the CD Community is hosting a relaxing place to swap STORIES and PICTURES and FUN – OH MY! Come learn from each other and Kalcker and Kerri in this multi-day meetup spot about many modalities that have brought a multitude of children moving forward on the road of recovery. So grab a java and a gummy worm, take a seat, and chill out and breathe! See More

 

 

Thinking Person's Guide to Autism 

Alternative Autism Science: Don't Believe the Hype!

Shannon Des Roches Rosa, May 10, 2013

 

My son has had a challenging few months. We have been scrambling, hard, to figure out the best ways to support him, help him feel comfortable and settled. Medical treatments have helped, as has a forensic approach to figuring out stressors in his environment, as has looking back through his daily record for patterns in sleep, illness, exercise, and routine. But when he's still unhappy or dysregulated despite all our best efforts plus the efforts of his extended team of doctors, educators, and therapists, I feel like I'd do anything to help him. See More

 

Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:

Genome healing strikes back

May 24, 2012

 

Well, screwed up transition to WordPress or not, I think it’s time to get back to the business of doing what Orac does best: Laying down the Insolence, Respectful and Not-So-Respectful. While the remaining bugs are being ironed out, I’ll work on trying to get the blog’s appearance back to the way I like it as I harass the Seed/NatGeo overlords to fix things up for the benefit of you, my readers. (Well, it’s also to my benefit, too. Using WordPress the way it’s configured now is a real PITA, if you know what I mean.) I thought about wandering over to that despicable den of antivaccine iniquity (yes, I’m referring to Age of Autism) but everything there now bored me. There’s also always Mike Adam’s even loonier multipurpose crazy pit. There was nothing truly exciting there, either, at least not to me and not right now.

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Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:

The lowest of the low: Trying to bleach autism away

Posted by Orac on May 25, 2012

 

It’s that time of year again.

 

What am I talking about? Regular readers know. They know that sometime around the Memorial Day weekend every year, usually beginning a couple of days before the extended weekend and into the weekend itself, there lands in the Chicago area a quackfest of such unrelenting quackitude that it has to be seen to be believed.

 

Basically, it’s the antivaccine and autism “biomed” movement Woodstock, except that it happens every year. Any and every quack and die-hard antivaccinationist who still believes believes against all evidence that vaccines cause autism is usually there. Anyone who’s anyone in the antivaccine movement is almost certainly there now (at least that part of the antivaccine movement that aligns itself with Generation Rescue/Age of Autism, anyway).

 

This quackfest is known as Autism One. See More

 

Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:

Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) and autism at Autism One: Kerri Rivera’s apologists strike back

Posted by Orac on June 11, 2012

 

A couple of weeks ago, I was horrified to learn of a new “biomed” treatment that has been apparently gaining popularity in autism circles. Actually, it’s not just autism circles in which this treatment is being promoted. Before the “autism biomed” movement discovered it, this particular variety of “miracle cure” has been touted as a treatment for cancer, AIDS, hepatitis A,B and C, malaria, herpes, TB, and who knows what else. I’m referring to something called MMS, which stands for “miracle mineral solution.” As I pointed out when I discovered its promotion for various maladies and then later when I discovered its promotion at the yearly antivaccine quackfest known as Autism One, MMS is a form of bleach. It’s industrial strength bleach, actually, 28% sodium chlorite in distilled water. Before use, MMS is frequently diluted in acidic juices, such as orange juice, resulting in the formation of chlorine dioxide (ClO2), which is, as the FDA characterized it in its warning about MMS, “a potent bleach used for stripping textiles and industrial water treatment.” See More

 

Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:

MMS (a.k.a., bleach) for autism: Just when I thought I was out…

Posted by Orac on June 21, 2012

 

The clip above says it all with respect to “miracle mineral solution” (a.k.a. MMS). Just when I thought I was out…they pull me back in. And, as Yoda would probably put it, back in I am one more time. (How’s that for mixing movie allusions?)

 

Let’s recap. MMS is bleach. Specifically, it is a 28% sodium chlorite in distilled water that generates chlorine dioxide when diluted with citric acid-containing or other acid-containing foods, as instructed. This is a chemical used for water purification that a quack—yes, quack—named Jim Humble has touted as a miracle cure for just about everything from cancer to AIDS to a wide variety of conditions, serious and not-so-serious. There is no currently known valid medical reason to give this chemical to anyone to treat anything. None of this is (or should be) in serious dispute from a strictly scientific, medical, or ethical standpoint. See More
 

Science Blogs - Respectful Insolence:
No matter how often I read about treatments like this, I still can’t believe parents actually subject their children to them

Posted by Orac on June 18, 2013

 

It’s been a while since I’ve written about MMS. You remember MMS, don’t you? It’s an abbreviation for “miracle mineral solution,” a solution first promoted by a man who is inaptly named Jim Humble. Basically, as I’ve described in multiple blog posts, MMS is bleach, specifically chlorine dioxide (ClO2). I first became acutely aware of it a little more than a year ago, when I noticed that the antivaccine autism biomed quackfest known as Autism One featured a talk by a woman named Kerri Rivera, who advocated using MMS to “bleach autism away,” as I put it at the time. Of course, Jim Humble doesn’t limit his use of MMS to just autism, but, like all good cranks, touts it as a near universal cure-all that is good for just about anything that ails you. So what’s so bad about using it for autism? See More

 

One News

'Miracle' cure users unfazed by danger warnings

 Nov 7, 2014

 

Health officials say the product is clearly dangerous, but that hasn't deterred some New Zealand users of a so-called miracle mineral solution.

 

While the product's developer claims he's on a spiritual mission to save mankind, he wasn't so keen to answer media questions.

 

Ngatea's water gardens might promise a slice of paradise but today it was miracles on offer. Around 50 people turned up to hear about the supposed health wonders of the so called 'Miracle Mineral Solution' or MMS.

 

Medsafe Group Manager Stewart Jessamine says there's absolutely no clinical evidence that the product has any positive effect on any health condition.

 

People attending today's seminar were not put off by that, or the $650 seminar fee. But not everyone was happy to be filmed by ONE News, most not keen to even talk about it.

 

MMS is the brainchild of self-appointed "archbishop" Jim Humble of the non-religious Genesis II Church of Health. He claims MMS has cured cancer, AIDS, almost every disease known to mankind.

 

But it does come with a rider, 'Archbishop' Humble saying in a video: "If you do use it, you use it totally on your own responsibility."

 

Health officials say it's nothing more than common bleach and stay away from it. See More

 

One News

Fears Over Bleach based "Miracle cure".

Nov 7, 2014

 

Microbiologist Dr Siouxsie Wiles discusses the widely discredited claims of the Genisis II Church that it's… See More

 

Lbrb: Autism Science, News and Opinions since 2003.

If MMS, CD, chlorine dioxide, “parasite protocol” is safe, why does ClO2 dissolve tissue?

 

One of the marketing ploys for MMS* is that it somehow attacks viruses, bacteria, parasites, heavy metals, toxins and more but doesn’t affect human tissue. It’s safe! Of course this is from the same people who said that it isn’t a bleach. Emily Willingham did a very simple and elegant demonstration that, MMS: Yes, It Is Bleach. Put a few drops on a black cloth and, lo an behold, it bleaches it. See More

 

Just The Vax

The proof that MMS is bleach

Friday, January 11, 2013

 

Last year, a lot of bloggers had tackled the ludicrous recommendation to use MMS (=bleach) to "cure" your child's autism/your cancer/your HIV (see Orac, Just the Vax, Emily Willingham at TPGA, also see Autismum's excellent posts, here and here). Both Emily and we got hit by a necromancer  a couple of days ago, leaving their typo- and error-riddled insight, first and foremost "MMS is not bleach".

 

Emily just posted the BEST ANSWER EVER to that claim. Better than any previous attempts by various colleagues to explain chemistry, she went out, prepared MMS according to the woosters' instructions and poured it on some dark cloth. She actually did the experiment (imagine my squees of delight). See More

 

 

Debunking Denialism

Unraveling Pathetic Bleach Apologetics

June 13, 2015

 

Bleach apologists advocate the treatment of cancer, malaria, HIV, autism and other conditions with a chlorine-based bleach called chlorine dioxide. There is no scientific evidence whatsoever that chlorine dioxide treats any medical condition. It is a bleach used for water treatment or pulp bleaching. See more